Year 12 RE Name: Shelby Batty and Emily Bennett
Questions in relation to the DVD ‘Shadowlands’
What are the sources of the pain and suffering depicted?
Love is a source of pain within the movie as C.S Lewis finally realises he loves Joy but its to late.
Family is as he lost his family at a young age.
The pain of losing his new wife just after he married her
What are the sources of the joy depicted?
When Joy appears to be getting better.
The first time Joy goes to his place.
Warnie is happy looking after Douglas as it gives him a family.
They are creating a family for themselves. (Warnie, Douglas, joy and Jack)
How are suffering and joy related in the video and in the broader sense for everybody?
They people that bring you joy can also bring you unimaginable pain and suffering.
Everybody experiences suffering and joy but for different reasons.
How can people ‘grow’ through suffering?
They learn how to cope with suffering and let go.
Get to know themselves better
Ask for help
Discover yourself through pain and suffering
How is the pain of losing a parent “re-lived” for C. S. Lewis in ‘Shadowlands’?
Douglas loses his mother at a young age just like Louis did.
Douglas doesn’t understand why his mother had to get sick- Louis agrees that he felt the same way when he lost his mother
Jack: "Why love, if losing hurts so much? I have no answers anymore: only the life I have lived. Twice in that life I’ve been given the choice: as a boy and as a man. The boy chose safety, the man chooses suffering. The pain now is part of the happiness then. That’s the deal."
How does Lewis say he copes differently with the death of Joy than the death of his mother?
Because he allowed himself too love Joy knowing that he would suffer when she died, whereas with his mother he didn’t love her as much as he could with the knowledge that he would lose her.
Jack: "Why love, if losing hurts so much? I have no answers anymore: only the life I have lived. Twice in that life I’ve been given the choice: as a boy and as a man. The boy chose safety, the man chooses suffering. The pain now is part of the happiness then. That’s the deal."
What are the responsibilities of a parent to the children he or she is leaving? What does Joy mean by “old enough to hurt”?
To ensure that they have someone to protect, love, care and lookout for their children who they are leaving behind.
We don’t understand last point
In the film, what key lines from the C. S. Lewis speech below are used repeatedly to express his attitude to God’s plan in allowing suffering?
“When a loved one dies we think of this as love cut short; like a dance stopped in mid-career or a flower with its head unluckily snapped off - something truncated and therefore lacking its due shape, whereas it is really a universal and integral part of our experience of love. It follows marriage as normally as marriage follows courtship, or as autumn follows summer. It is not a truncation of the process but one of its phases; not the interruption of the dance but the next figure.”
Everything has to happen, everyone has to die at some stage, natural part of life is death, everything has a purpose also people think that it is unfair because we lose people that we love, but it has to happen nevertheless.
Words: "love curt short" , "as atutumn follows summer", "not the interruption of the dance but the next figure"
Tuesday, March 20, 2012
Sunday, February 5, 2012
Pain and Suffering YouTube Clips Response
Japan- Tsunami and Earthquake 2011
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
Nobody is to blame it is a natural disaster- no one causes it. It is out of our control. However some people blame God.
- global warming- us
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
Reconcile:
You can never fully reconcile all the pain and suffering. Through new life.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It is horrible to see everybody's lives destroyed. You cant imagine what they went through. Losing friends, family, houses and everything that you knew in a blink of an eye. You feel shocked, helpless, very small in retrospect.
Q4. What can be done, if anything to avoid this kind of occurrence?
People and places can be prepared and have various evacuation routes and they could build houses out of certain materials that can withstand earthquakes.
You can't really avoid or prepare for situations like these- its how we deal with the aftermath that defines us.
Christchurch Earthquake
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
Nobody is to blame it is a natural disaster- no one causes it. Global Warming!
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
Reconcile:
You can never fully reconcile all the pain and suffering. However you can try to reconcile through new life.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It's horrible! You can't imagine how scared they must have been and how much they went through. Buts it's touching to see people helping each other in a time of crisis.
Q4. What can be done, if anything to avoid this kind of occurrence?
You can't really avoid or prepare for situations like these- its how we deal with the aftermath that defines us.
Syrian/ Egyptian Violence
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
The leaders/ government are to blame as they are torturing and beating people up. People shouldn't be treated like that. However the people/ demonstraters do fight back with similar violence.
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
The only way to reconcile all the pain and suffering is for the government to stop fighting and make peace. They have to try and apologise to everyone. God is not in this as he doesn't want us to be violent- maybe we will learn from our mistakes? God can stop it through other powerful people.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It is horrible and very scary to think that another person could do that to someone. The video was very graphic and I can't believe what the world has come to- there is so much violence. Empathetic.
Q4. What can be done, if anything?
The government/ the dictator should make peace with its people. They should make apologies to everyone. We should all develop understanding, love and tolerance.
Queensland Floods- Jan 2011
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
Nobody is to blame.
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
You can't reconcile the pain and suffering. You can only come together as a community and grieve- then move on and rebuild together.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It is horrible- especially because its so close to us.
Q4. What can be done, if anything to avoid this kind of occurrence?
Be prepared- know how to react if it happens again. Be careful.
Victoria Bushfire's- 2007
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
The people who started the fire! Human error.
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
Nobody can possibly reconcile the pain and suffering- we can only hope that time will heal the devastation.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It is devastating. So many people died and so many people's homes were destroyed. The people who survived and rebuilt are really amazing.
Q4. What can be done, if anything to avoid this kind of occurrence?
Don't play with fire!
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
Nobody is to blame it is a natural disaster- no one causes it. It is out of our control. However some people blame God.
- global warming- us
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
Reconcile:
You can never fully reconcile all the pain and suffering. Through new life.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It is horrible to see everybody's lives destroyed. You cant imagine what they went through. Losing friends, family, houses and everything that you knew in a blink of an eye. You feel shocked, helpless, very small in retrospect.
Q4. What can be done, if anything to avoid this kind of occurrence?
People and places can be prepared and have various evacuation routes and they could build houses out of certain materials that can withstand earthquakes.
You can't really avoid or prepare for situations like these- its how we deal with the aftermath that defines us.
Christchurch Earthquake
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
Nobody is to blame it is a natural disaster- no one causes it. Global Warming!
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
Reconcile:
You can never fully reconcile all the pain and suffering. However you can try to reconcile through new life.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It's horrible! You can't imagine how scared they must have been and how much they went through. Buts it's touching to see people helping each other in a time of crisis.
Q4. What can be done, if anything to avoid this kind of occurrence?
You can't really avoid or prepare for situations like these- its how we deal with the aftermath that defines us.
Syrian/ Egyptian Violence
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
The leaders/ government are to blame as they are torturing and beating people up. People shouldn't be treated like that. However the people/ demonstraters do fight back with similar violence.
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
The only way to reconcile all the pain and suffering is for the government to stop fighting and make peace. They have to try and apologise to everyone. God is not in this as he doesn't want us to be violent- maybe we will learn from our mistakes? God can stop it through other powerful people.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It is horrible and very scary to think that another person could do that to someone. The video was very graphic and I can't believe what the world has come to- there is so much violence. Empathetic.
Q4. What can be done, if anything?
The government/ the dictator should make peace with its people. They should make apologies to everyone. We should all develop understanding, love and tolerance.
Queensland Floods- Jan 2011
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
Nobody is to blame.
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
You can't reconcile the pain and suffering. You can only come together as a community and grieve- then move on and rebuild together.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It is horrible- especially because its so close to us.
Q4. What can be done, if anything to avoid this kind of occurrence?
Be prepared- know how to react if it happens again. Be careful.
Victoria Bushfire's- 2007
Q1. Who is to blame if anyone? Explain
The people who started the fire! Human error.
Q2. How can you reconcile the pain and suffering with the Christian understanding of God?
Nobody can possibly reconcile the pain and suffering- we can only hope that time will heal the devastation.
Q3. What is your personal reaction to the pain and suffering depicted?
It is devastating. So many people died and so many people's homes were destroyed. The people who survived and rebuilt are really amazing.
Q4. What can be done, if anything to avoid this kind of occurrence?
Don't play with fire!
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